Ferrari have been fined $100 000 for ordering Brazilian Felipe Massa to move aside and let team mate Fernando Alonso win the German F1 Grand Prix. Share your thoughts on F1 team orders here!

http://www.wheels24.co.z...i-fined-100-000-20100726

All only my perceptions of course but shades of when Alonso was at Mclaren when his ego couldn't take losing to Hamilton! He seems to have found a greasy bedfellow in Ferrari management to support his seemingly slimy disposition. As a supporter of drivers first and teams second, I hope that anyone but Alonso and Ferrari win the title and that Massa is snapped up by another team next year. As with Rubens, a nice man who should make the change sooner rather than waste valuable years. At the very least Ferrari and Alonso should be disqualified from the last race. In recent times Mclaren was severely penalised for staff indiscretions and Renault was dealt with less convincingly for forcing a number 2 to crash so that the number 1 driver could benefit. Who was the number 1 at Renault - Alonso? Hmmmm. The fine imposed is like a bite from a toothless bulldog is it not? Let us see if the financial might of Ferrari is not able to " grease the palms" of the circles of power. I await the outcome in eager anticipation!

There are two sides to this story. On the one side you have Ferrari and Alonso and the other Massa. Ferrari keen to get back into the championship have Alonso (the higher placed driver) behind Massa who was "supposedly" holding up the Spaniard with Vettel closing in.

From Massa's point of view he had a great start and was able to get himself in front, and thus deserved his position. He had a great first part of the race until he stopped for hard tyres which Massa was known for struggling on and thus Alonso was able to close the gap. Let's be honest and admit that there will always be team orders in F1, but what I don't understand was they way in which the switch had taken place. Massa could have easily out-braked himself into the hairpin or even "struggled" through the traffic. Ferrari had taken unnecessary risks and maybe should've settled for Alonso finishing second. Rather get 18 points now than risking the championship for 25.

Ferrari's reasoning is understandable but should take extra precautions in the manner of how it is done. Let's hope from a F1 point of view that nothing serious happens to Ferrari. I honestly believe this season is a 5 horse race with the title fight going down to the wire.

Sorry, I hark back to the days when cars were cars (not just clones of each other with different graphics), circuits were a bit spicy(not endless corbon copies of each other designed by the same man), drivers were men who made their own decisions (not simply Play Station players who now even have to suffer the ignomy of having their revs governed by electronics from the pits).

That said, I find F1 emmenently boring right now and I only watch because it's there. I am sure that hordes of former enthusiasts will soon find the attraction of the present F1 circus waning. To me there is little joy in watching races crammed onto funny circuits on godforsaken sites at ungodly hours. The novelty is wearing very thin all over the world and we have to face the facts that efforts to provide a "spectacle" are killing motorsport.

I'm sure that history will prove that this type of meddling/massaging of nature eventually killed the sport. The design parameters are now so closely defined that you end up with a difference of 1/2000th of a second between 1st and second place on the starting grid - because that's what has been engineered into the sport. When somebody comes up with a slight variation in performance, tears and the gnashing of teeth are heard up and down the length of the pits. Never mind, one week and a couple of court cases and the miscreants are brought back into the fold.

Every week a new reason is put forward for the lack of crowds at the lesser races too - No wonder, we're all wise to the adding/subtracting of ballast and reversing grid positions for the second heat etc, etc. Have a look at the grandstands (when you get a glimpse of them) in GP 2 and Porsche Super Cup.

Give me the old days when the drivers drove balls to the wall, delaminating tread be buggered and "I'll carry it over the finishing line if I have to" attitudes. Tough titties if the "also-ran's" didn't pick up the silverware - they could if they designed a better car - proved by the birth of Brabham, Tyrell, Lotus and Cooper coming up with a better design than the "big boys."

Finally, let me not get started on the ego's and petulance of the Play Station Drivers - each of whom thinks that they are capable of walking on water.

This whole debacle is a farce. Ferrari is a team and one works for the team and must do whats best for the team. If Massa was leading the points standing then Alonso would have yielded to him.

This is no different to when Button was catching Hamilton and the team radio said to Button " Save fuel" which in fact meant do not overtake Hamilton. No one questioned them- Why not ?????

Lets cut the b***sh1t and get on with racing.

Alonso ONLY wins by cheating...(Pquet's deliberate crash which he ofcourse was unaware of, hogging the pit while Hamilton sat with his thumb up his rectum...).
Ferrari, and the sport for that matter, would do well to get rid of him. Massa and a few otherscan run circles around him with their eyes closed (no pun intended).
To eliminate this sort of controversy, pit to car radio should be banned. The enginers, not the drivers, sem to be racing from the pit lane. One only has to go back a few years to Villeneuve and Peroni (both at Ferrari) to really appreciate true racing...

Intersubjectively ascertainable: Mass-dampergate + Spygate + Crashgate + Radiogate = ElFraud.